After some early sleety drizzle it has been snowing in Long Valley (8600 ft) since late morning with 0.75 inch accumulating so far. Reliable tracks are in place (at least) for Devils Slide Trail. You don't hike alone. At least two further minor storm systems are forecast, overnight into Tuesday 3rd January, and then again all day on Thursday 5th January, as described in more detail in the Weather section below. (231), Climber's Log Entries Dan Hendley, a colleague of Kumm's at Kiewit Industries in Long Beach, said he was surprised to learn that his friend had taken on the 11,500-foot-high mountain by himself. Snow covered Mt. Share. He didn't know the area, and he was in ice with [boot spikes] he just got at Christmas," Goodman said. Snow depths measured at various locations on the trail system are given at the foot of this posting. Trails remain very icy due to daily freeze/thaw cycles and compaction from hiker traffic, so spikes are recommended throughout the trail system above about 8000 ft (lower in places). This may mean rain and/or freezing rain as high as 10,000 ft, and challenging layers of icy or mixed snow/ice conditions at all elevations, including the possible melting of some or most preexisting snow below about 8000 ft due to rainfall. There's a clear message being sent to those who go into the burn areas to be aware of your footing," said Ruth Wenstrom, a U.S. Forest Service spokeswoman. The snow pack was hard enough to walk on top in some places but we did experience many holes. Note that generally the maximum depths so far this winter were immediately following the major storm sequence on 14th-17th January 2023 (details of those depths available here). Conditions will remain very unsettled well into the third week of January. Snow depths are currently suitable for snowshoeing above about 9000 ft, potentially lower in places. Snowshoes will remain valuable anywhere off trail above about 8000 ft for the foreseeable future. Note that temperatures fluctuating either side of freezing are forecast for both mid and upper elevations starting in a few days time. Spikes are not required for ascending, but some hikers will find them useful at least for descending the uppermost section. 2020 San Gorgonio: Type of Hike: Day hike: Trailhead: Vivian Creek Trail: Hiking Companions: Hiked with a partner: Road Conditions: Road suitable for all vehicles: Bug Status: Bugs were not too bad: Snow Conditions: Snow free: Trail Conditions: Trail in good condition: Long day hike, bugs were bearable, trail was dry. Altitudes are approximate. Eventually with compaction of the trails caused by increasing hiker traffic and freeze/thaw cycles snowshoes may steadily become less useful, however they will certainly remain valuable for off-trail travel in the high country well into February at least. All seasonal and ephemeral streams were running strongly, and the current water conditions are the best for four years, since the great Valentines Day flood event of 2019. Camp on a durable surface at least 100 feet away from trails and water sources. Cautious navigation remains required for those who do not have significant experience of hiking this trail. May 20th is the Erie Zoo Earth Day Celebration and they've invited the Girl Scouts to the party. Section C. I-10/San Gorgonio Pass to I-15/Cajon Pass. Skyline Trail has a good track to follow through light icy snow above about 7200 ft (the Traverse to Grubbs Notch). Of course, this February was notable in that roughly 80% of the total fell all in the last week of the month, with no respite for significant melting. Also, they don't necessarily share the same parent. Altitudes are approximate. Very shallow snow is often icy and potentially perilous, while deeper powder can actually be much safer, albeit slow-going for hiking. I recorded a short video at the Peak, available here on YouTube. The second system, possible in a broad time window between 2nd and 4th December, may produce significant snow in the high country (forecasts have ranged widely from 0-30 inches above 10,000 ft!) Minor storm overnight on 27th-28th December. Note that snow depth itself is rarely indicative of the difficulty (or otherwise) of hiking a particular track or trail. They tend to be especially useful for descending trails. Snow cover remains >95% through Little Round Valley up to San Jacinto Peak. Spikes are expected to remain extremely useful over the next few weeks given the unpredictable weather. You can check out the latest hike logs from San Gorgonio here. Willow Creek Trail remains a relatively slow, messy hike for a couple of miles. scotchybob. As discussed above, additional snowfall expected on 10th and 14th-16th January will further complicate the trail conditions. Many thanks to Kyle Eubanks who I chatted with at the Peak this afternoon. Print. The fourteenth and fifteenth storm systems of winter 2022/23 impacted the San Jacinto mountains back-to-back on 13th and 14th February, as discussed in the previous Report available here. On 13th, Idyllwild received 2.75 inches, and I measured five inches at San Jacinto Peak, with 3-4 inches at locations in between. Spikes tend to be especially useful for descending trails. South Ridge Road itself is now functionally clear of ice and snow. Current expectations are only for 1-2 inches of snow at mid elevations (e.g., Idyllwild) and not much more at higher elevations, perhaps 2-3 inches with each storm. Spikes are currently usefulthroughout the trail system above about 6000 ft, possibly lower in places on cold (icy) mornings. At 11,499 feet, San Gorgonio Mountain is the highest peak in California south of the Sierra. On the afternoon of 18th I saw posthole tracks that head down the start of the Caramba Trail, and following the PCT southbound toward Chinquapin Flat, but I have no further details at this time. Unlike the other destinations from LA on this . The Peak Trail has about 90% cover of icy snow to 9900 ft elevation, and then >95% cover to San Jacinto Peak. on official, secure websites. However, snowshoes will become increasingly useful as conditions warm sufficiently for snow to become soft above about 9000 ft, especially on sunny slopes and afternoons. PCT Mile 179.9 (8070 ft): 3 inches (4 inches on 12th December), Devils Slide Trail at Humber Park (6550 ft): 0-1 inches (3.5 inches on 12th December). When plowed Humber will remain very icy for the next few days at least. Every year seems to have its unique challenges and 2022 has been no exception. The areas reopened include all campgrounds in the Barton Flats and Heartbar areas, including Jenks Lake picnic area. The freeze level will again start very high, but is forecast to fall lower, with the possibility of a light dusting of snow down to about 5500 ft. Another inch of rain is forecast for mid elevations, but a heavier snowfall is expected in the high country, with predictions ranging from 8-20 inches above 10,000 ft. Further precipitation is tentatively forecast for 3rd-6th January, but amounts, timing, and freeze levels remain uncertain this far ahead. Spikes will become increasingly useful over the next few days and weeks as established trails become consolidated by hiker traffic and undergo freeze-thaw cycles. Snowshoes are currently not required on the established trail system, which is now too heavily traveled and compacted for snowshoes. The Caramba Trail from near Reeds Meadow through Laws Camp and on to Caramba, and the Cedar Trail from Willow Creek Trail to Laws, are described by the Forest Service as not maintained. San Gorgonio Wilderness-California. Altitudes are approximate. However the Tuesday storm is forecast to be much colder, with a freeze level dropping to 5000 ft, with several of inches of snow therefore possible at the elevation of Idyllwild. Bring extra food, flashlight, and warm clothes. Photos (5,382) Directions. The San Gorgonio Campground provides access to a variety of recreational opportunities, as well as a beautiful location in which to enjoy nature. Per "Tarol" 6-21-2011The Vivian Creek route is the most popular, South Fork is #2If you want a permit for Vivian for a dayhike on the weekend in the summertime, you must get it 3-4 weeks in advance. History of the San Gorgonio Wilderness; History of the SGWA; Newsletters; 2022 SGWA Yearbook; 2021 SGWA Yearbook; 2020 SGWA Yearbook; 2019 SGWA Yearbook; Contact; Events. While we have to be grateful for any precipitation received given our rapidly warming mountain climate, it was not the significant snow-producing storm that had been generally forecast in recent days. That said, it has just started gently snowing in both locations, so storm totals may increase slightly over the next couple of hours. This information will be updated daily over the next week as details are changing significantly with every new forecast. Due to the very high freeze level snowfall was restricted to a light dusting above 8200 ft, increasing to one inch above 9000 ft and 1.5 inch above 10,000 ft. Impacts will be minimal on high country trails, but trails between 7000-9000 ft with pre-existing snow may be a mix of slush, snow and ice, and will require some caution. "It occurred to me that anyway one more Sunday was over, that Maman was buried now, that I was going back to work, and that, really, nothing had changed." We had a Garmin GPS with us and it showed the total round trip mileage from the parking lot where you first start walking, to the top and back, as being a little over 18 miles round trip! We estimate that 3407 Calle Sin Rival would rent between $7,377 / mo. It was near-whiteout conditions due to wild spindrift above Wellman Divide, but the new snow was firm and overall made for good snowshoeing conditions. Spitler Peak Trail has a very visible boot track through light snow in its upper switchbacks to the PCT. Underlying the fresh snow is in places a thin layer of ice and/or icy snow remaining from the previous storm in early November. On Fuller Ridge Trail there are five major treefall hazards obstructing the trail in the 1.5 mile section nearest to the campground (PCT Miles 189-190.5). The upper end of this trail offers outstanding views of Yucaipa Ridge and Galena Peak, as well as sweeping panoramic views from the top of Mt. Generally considered a challenging route, it takes an average of 11 h 14 min to complete. At San Jacinto Peak (10,810ft/3295m) on Wednesday 15th February 2023 at 1030 the air temperature was 4.9F (-15C), with a windchill temperature of -26.3F (-32C), 65% relative humidity, and a bitter due North wind sustained at 19 mph gusting to 27.7 mph. That is expected to change, with up to several inches of snow forecast both in the high country and at mid elevations tonight. Some hikers may continue to find spikes useful for some of the minor icy patches but they are no longer required. ( Strong winds expected on 11th-12th February, and again on 14th, will likely obscure many tracks with spindrift. The East Ridge Trail (from near Miller Peak to San Jacinto Peak) has a handful of tracks through the continuous snow, though none (including mine) accurately follow the trail route. Note however that snow depth itself is rarely indicative of the difficulty (or otherwise) of hiking a particular route. Stone Creek campground had also closed, but I saw that it had apparently reopened for Thanksgiving weekend. I kept my crampons on for the entire descent, taking advantage of excellent cross-country glissading conditions, and made it from San Jacinto Peak back to Humber Park in just over two hours. Your contribution keeps the Report available to all, free from advertising or paywalls, and independent from agencies. The Ernie Maxwell Scenic Trail has a well-traveled track to follow throughout its length, snow cover is about 80%. Please feel free to add this route to the mountain page. Early morning hikes to San Jacinto Peak have generally had icy snow underfoot with sufficient bite for grippy boots, allowing me to bareboot all the way to San Jacinto Peak. He's a pretty strong-willed guy." Park here above the picnic area where there are a handful of parking spots. 9.1 miles one-way. Ernie Maxwell Trail [checked 2nd February] has a heavily traveled track to follow along its entire length, through the increasingly patchy icy snow. SNOW DEPTHS measured on 19th-20th February (east and south side locations) and 15th February 2023 (west side) are as follows. I put in a posthole track the entire way up, but crampons (with an ice axe) were essential at that time on the upper switchbacks above about 8300 ft due to the typical steeply angled ice obscured underneath 6-12 inches of powder (photos below). Strong winds expected on 11th-12th, and again on 14th, will likely obscure many tracks. What does it mean if I have a California Campfire Permit? I put in a posthole track the entire way up, but crampons (with an ice axe) were necessary on the upper switchbacks above about 8300 ft due to the usual steeply angled ice obscured underneath 6-12 inches of powder. Some of the storms are expected to be very cold with snow levels below 3000 ft, and, for example, Garner Valley may receive between 6-12 inches of snow by early March. It climbs just fast enough to avoid being frustrating on the ascent, but is gentle enough so as to not be pounding on the descent. Length 19.0 miElevation gain 5,492 ftRoute type Out & back. 2 night trip SB Peak Trail to Limber Pine, Trail Fork Springs and back. While all time and labor is volunteered, the San Jacinto Trail Report uses small private donations to cover costs. Map showing recreational areas. At 11,503, "Old Grayback" provides an excellent high altitude training for those . Spikes will likely become more increasingly useful over the next few days as established trails become consolidated by hiker traffic and undergo freeze-thaw cycles. These mileages were all recently revised by the USFS and SGWA: The second significant Pacific storm of winter 2022/23 is currently impacting the San Jacinto mountains. Generally the San Jacinto mountains have just caught the southern edge of these systems, with nothing like the dramatic precipitation being reported from further north. Forest Service campgrounds at Boulder Basin, Marion Mountain, and Fern Basin are now closed for the season. My tracks from Wednesday 18th January from Humber Park to/from San Jacinto Peak will be largely visible but may become somewhat obscured in places. Two significant further atmospheric river storm systems are forecast, on Tuesday 10th, and then again on Saturday 14th-Sunday 15th. Since the depths given in the previous Report, there has been some melting at higher elevations on sunny days and below 9000 ft caused by the heavy rainfall. South Fork via Dry Lake 11.34 miles, 4,622' gain My snowshoe track continues from Saddle Junction through to San Jacinto Peak via Wellman Divide , the Peak Trail, and East Ridge, but this may become obscured by additional light snowfall and/or drifting snow from strong winds. Sadly it is looking increasingly likely that neither storm will significantly impact the San Jacinto mountains. There are other South Fork Trails in Southern California, so make sure you are going to South Fork . Favorite hiking regions include the San Gorgonio Wilderness, Eastern Sierras, Channel Islands and San Gabriel Mountains . There are layers of hard ice and firm icy snow beneath the fresh powder, and crampons are ideal at present everywhere above 9000 ft, potentially lower in places. On the afternoon of Monday 6th I was treated to moody clouds and virga, a cloud base just above my head at San Jacinto Peak, and the briefest possible flurry of small snow flakes while at the Peak (but nothing settled). Note however that snow depth is rarely indicative of the ease (or otherwise) of hiking a given trail. Regarding snowfall, the high country may be above the cloud at times, with dustings of snow above about 7000 ft across much of the nine day period, but with the highest probability for a heavy snowfall on Saturday 31st December, totaling 8-15 inches. For closure information, please visit our official PCT closures page. For closure information, please visit . Wellman Divide (9700 ft): 45 inches (30 inches snow in latest storms) but heavily drifted here, Annies Junction/PCT Mile 180.8 (9070 ft): 45-48 inches (about 30-32 inches snow in latest storms), Long Valley (8600 ft): 24 inches (16 inches in latest storms), Saddle Junction/PCT Mile 179 (8070 ft): 21 inches (13 inches snow in latest storms), Devils Slide trailhead at Humber Park (6550 ft): 5-6 inches (all from latest storms, four inches of snow on top of ice). Although good tracks are now in place for most major trails (details below), cautious navigation is recommended everywhere. Early on Monday 23rd January I ascended San Jacinto Peak via the east side (Devils Slide, Wellman, and Peak trails) that I had broken last Wednesday 18th, and descended the west side via (more-or-less) Deer Springs Trail. Other Info. Spitler Peak Trail (last surveyed 18th November) is clear of snow. The first storm system comes through overnight on Tuesday 27th, with precipitation continuing into the morning of Wednesday 28th. SNOW DEPTHS measured on or around 28th November 2022 are as follows, with depths after the last significant storm (on 9th November) for comparison in parentheses where known. All trails above about 6500 ft are currently snow-covered, and partially snow-covered above 5500 ft. Check out this 25.0-mile point-to-point trail near Forest Falls, California. According to "tarol" Adventure Passes are now required at only the Vivian, Momyer, and South Fork Trailheads - the other SG Wilderness Trailheads are free. The system was cooler in the early hours of Friday morning, with a dusting of snow to 6000 ft and a covering of icy sleet below that in Idyllwild. The other bonus was an immaculate set of fresh Mountain Lion tracks in the trail (photos below), with sign that the lion had crossed back-and-forth across Devils Slide in multiple locations further up also. Although excellent tracks are now in place for almost all major trails cautious navigation remains recommended. Trip Report. Ernie Maxwell Trail [checked 23rd and 26th January] has good tracks to follow along its entire length, through the shallow icy snow (still >90% snow cover). This is a summary of conditions following the tenth and eleventh Pacific storms of winter 2022/23 to impact the San Jacinto range, that were basically a double atmospheric river event spread across 14th-17th January. PCT Mile 181.8 (9070 ft): 0-1 inch, photo below (was 6 inches on 9th), Deer Springs Trail at top of Marion Mountain Trail (8700 ft): 1-2 inches, Tahquitz Peak (north side trail, 8700 ft): 0-1 inch [measured 26th November], Tahquitz Peak (south side trail, 8500-8700 ft): 0 inch [measured 26th November], Long Valley (8600 ft): <1 inch (was 2-3 inches on 9th), Strawberry Junction (8100 ft): 0 inch (was approx. Vehicles not parked in these spaces may be ticketed and/or towed. All trails above about 5500 ft are largely snow-covered (wholly snow-covered above about 7000 ft). Deer Springs Trail [updated 22nd December] has an accurate track to follow all the way to San Jacinto Peak as I broke trail the entire way down to the Suicide Rock Trail junction on 15th December. Spikes could potentially be used to ascend to the highest peaks at this time, although crampons are certainly safer for traversing. They are not however required, depending upon your comfort level hiking on shallow variable snow, potentially mixed with slushy and/or icy patches (depending upon time of day). . Although our perceptions may have been skewed by some extremely dry winters in the past decade, major snowfalls are not as rare as many current residents might think. At San Jacinto Peak (10,810ft/3295m) on Friday 6th January 2023 at 0930 the air temperature was 25.7F (-4C), with a windchill temperature of 14.7F (-10C), 44% relative humidity, and a chilly NNW breeze sustained at 5 mph gusting to 10.6 mph. If there are Road Closed signs further down often the case at weekends and holidays when snow is present then those nine spaces are also unavailable for legal parking. SNOW DEPTHS measured on 18th January 2023 (unless otherwise indicated) are as follows. Marion Mountain Trail has a very well-defined track to follow. Forest, San Gorgonio Wilderness, San Jacinto Wilderness and State Park. Spikes are currently recommended throughout the trail system above about 7500 ft. Above Little Round Valley in particular my track down from the Peak is very direct, steep, and would be a challenging ascent. Conversely in places scouring by the wind means the depths are well below the average. The best times to visit this trail are May through November. Conversely on the afternoon of Tuesday 6th the ice was distinctly more watery, and I wore spikes from San Jacinto Peak down to Wellman Divide (9700 ft). Roads 1n02 / 1n05 that go into Aspen Grove and Fish Creek are closed for the winter. UPDATE Thursday 23rd: Idyllwild woke up to about four inches of fresh snow overnight, and it snowed fairly consistently today (averaging 0.75 inch/hour), adding six more inches by late afternoon. Data are provisional and require verification. Through and below Little Round Valley, my track almost entirely follows the established trail. The 0.4 mile section of South Ridge Trail between Chinquapin Flat/PCT and Tahquitz Peak has a well-traveled and level track to follow through the steadily melting 1-2 inches of icy snow. Thank you so much for your support. 602 S. Tippecanoe Ave. Current trail conditions are oddly reminiscent of spring, with snow distribution and iciness feeling more typical for April or May than late November. United States. Snow from the moderate storm on 8th-9th November (summarized in a prior Report) has been melting steadily as temperatures in the past week have been above seasonal. SGWA lists the elevation gain from momyer creek trailhead to SG summit as 6,062'. I snowshoed down from San Jacinto Peak via Wellman Divide, Saddle Junction, and Devils Slide Trail. 0:04. For example, although Long Valley currently has about 5 feet of snow, publicly available records for the 1970s show that Long Valley averaged 119 inches (almost 10 feet!) This rain produces huge masses of ice in the trees, including many chunks I have estimated as weighing 40-100 lb this winter, which can dislodge dramatically once direct sunlight warms the trees. Forecast models have a higher degree of confidence for the Tuesday storm than the storm next weekend. Altitudes are approximate. Broadly speaking it is clear that snowfall has become much more variable in the past decade, ranging from extremely dry (<10 inches) to, obviously, very snowy. As of the afternoon of Monday 12th, the only tracks that I saw and that are known to be in place are my snowshoe track between Humber Park and San Jacinto Peak (using Devils Slide, Wellman, and Peak trails), and the track of Kyle Eubanks from the previous evening between Long Valley and the Peak via Wellman Divide (which remained surprisingly visible in places about 15-20 hours later, showing how calm the winds were overnight). The top ten snowfall totals by winter for Idyllwild are as follows: While many hundreds of hours of time and labor are volunteered annually, the San Jacinto Trail Report uses small private donations to help cover modest operating costs. per winter back then. STAY SAFE!RESCUES IN THE WILDERNESS CAN BE AVOIDED.FOLLOW A FEW SIMPLE RULES, Be prepared Carry Flashlight, Map, Food, Water and Clothing. It may be in the 60s and 70s in the valleys, but it's not warm in the mountains. Idyllwild (at 5550 ft): 0-1 inch (0.5 inch hail/sleet plus 1.04 inch rain on 5th). This was tricky for postholing which went through the ice layer. All trails above about 6500 ft are currently lightly, or above 8000 ft moderately, snow-covered. Storm systems forecast for 21st-24th and 28th February are all predicted to include severe windchill temperatures near or below -20F (-29C). SNOW DEPTHS measured on 2nd-5th December 2022 are as follows, with depths after the only significant storm of this winter to date (on 9th November) for comparison in parentheses where known. Mountain Conditions. Devils Slide Trail has an excellent compacted track to follow to Saddle Junction. Since the depths given in the previous Report, there has been some melting at higher elevations which have been above the cloud at times, and below 7000 ft where temperatures have remained above freezing for several days. However the snow conditions may not be suitable for snowshoeing on certain slopes, as described above. ABC7 reports the . Does anybody have accurate GPS or other reading of the actual total elevation gain? Snowshoes are useful in low to moderate angle terrain with adequate snow depth above about 8000 ft, for example the Tahquitz area meadows near Saddle Junction, sections of Deer Springs Trail, and Long Valley/Round Valley. Darren Goodman of the sheriff's search-and-rescue team. Search and Rescue advises always hike with someone, and not leave your group. I recorded an overly rambling and partly wind affected video report from San Jacinto Peak late morning on Wednesday 18th, available here on YouTube, but it does give a sense for the conditions underfoot at the highest elevations, and for the spectacular vista that day. As described above, crampons with hiking poles and an ice axe, depending on terrain are currently ideal everywhere above about 9500 ft. This will make trail conditions more complicated, and if in any doubt whatsoever carry and use traction devices accordingly (see discussion in introduction above). For those that are unclear, the Skyline Trail is the first segment of the C2C (cactus to clouds) from Palm Springs up to Grubbs Notch, the access point to Long Valley. Sadly weight of snow has caused the roof of one shop in town to collapse, and I saw one collapsed car port (with cars inside) under the dramatic volume of snow. Note that average depth is given; due to strong winds accompanying storms there is extensive drifting. Zelle, Venmo, and PayPal are all options. Snow cover is continuous from there, with a posthole track to Tahquitz Peak. In Palm Springs, artist Lauren Bon displays The Smallest Sea with the Largest Heart. Such unseasonably warm temperatures led to rapid snow melt everywhere, despite the low sun angle at this time of year, while in many areas freeze/thaw cycles have resulted in icy trails and roads especially in the early mornings. Spikes at least are required, but preferably crampons, both best used with an ice axe, specifically for the uppermost switchbacks, but traction is useful for descending much lower also. Thankfully it was relatively straightforward in crampons as the underlying snow was very solid due to freeze/thaw cycles, and the overlying powder was generally shallow. Trip Report By. While these are expected to bring significant precipitation throughout the state, there remains considerable uncertainty regarding timing and precipitation amounts for Southern California. Currently crampons, with an ice axe (and knowledge of how to use both), are strongly recommended. With the light dusting of fresh powder overnight, accompanied by strong winds causing extensive drifting, prior tracks had been partially obscured everywhere and almost completely erased above 8900 ft so I was again breaking trail in the high country. Hikers should be prepared for temperatures below freezing in the high country, and far below freezing when considering wind chill effects (see below for my recent weather observations from San Jacinto Peak). Spikes are recommended but not required depending upon your comfort level hiking on angled icy snow. Zelle, Venmo, and PayPal are all now options. (one-way mileages to the top of San G) It does not accurately follow the established trail route in significant sections but is navigable. Fire lookouts at Black Mountain and Tahquitz Peak were closed for the season ahead of schedule in anticipation of the snow storm in early November. Dark Canyon Road (4S02, the access to Seven Pines Trail) and Santa Rosa Truck Trail (7S02) closed to vehicle traffic for the season on 7th November 2022. Vivian Creek Trail to San Gorgonio Peak. Spikes will likely become more increasingly useful over the next few days and weeks as established trails become consolidated by hiker traffic and undergo freeze-thaw cycles. U.S. Forest Service personnel were preparing similar advisories to be given to hikers who buy parking and hiking permits in the San Bernardino, Cleveland, Angeles and Los Padres national forests. At San Jacinto Peak (10,810ft/3295m) on Wednesday 18th January 2023 at 1115 the air temperature was 16.8F (-8C), with a windchill temperature of -3.6F (-20C), 27% relative humidity, and a frigid NNW wind sustained at 10 mph gusting to 25.8 mph. Explore this 19.0-mile out-and-back trail near Forest Falls, California. Per "Tarol" 6-21-2011 Note that there are about a dozen stream crossings and sections of the trail with water flowing in them, at times for tens of feet. In Idyllwild (data from 5550 ft) there was 1.14 inches of rain on Sunday 11th which turned to snow that afternoon, settling to 0.5 inch. My blogging throughout the storms gave more day-to-day detail and is available here. "On Mount San Jacinto, the conditions just aren't good for avalanches with the slopes and amount . The atmospheric river of moisture from lower latitudes was weaker than the storm in early November, although snowfall was ultimately slightly greater in this storm than in November, perhaps in part due to the colder temperatures. Crunchy layers as high as 9800 ft elevation told me it had rained that high at the start of the storm yesterday, but conversely there was very light snow (<1 inch) down to 5500 ft in Idyllwild. On 21st I again barebooted (i.e. At the on Monday 5th December 2022 at 0840 the air temperature was 24.1F (-4C), with a windchill temperature of 2.8F (-16C), 20% relative humidity, and a bitter WSW wind sustained at 18 mph gusting to 33.0 mph. Parents refers to a larger category under which an object falls.