Hi It tames the recoil of this 6.6-pound rifle extremely well. excellent trigger. I own a 6.5-.300 Wby and reload my own ammo. Ruger Americans are fantastic. Can you do a in-depth comparison review of the CVA Cascade vs. Ruger American? Hey Jim I recently found your stuff and have been doing a deep dive. First available in 1936 for Petes sake. Capacity: 4+1 Ruger precision is really heavy for hunting, but a cool rifle. It has the Accufit stock, but not the Accustock with the aluminum rail system. I seriously am not sure how you can improve on it. The barrel is cold hammer forged with rifling like the Sako (Tikka). The muzzle break sends recoil back into the rifle which breaks cheap scopes . These are deal breakers. Your reviews and articles are very helpful for us folks that dont have a big gun shop within 150 miles! Thanks, Joe. I recently purchased the Momentum Elite in the 6.5 creedmoor and respectfully think an honourable mention for the under $1000 would be appropriate. Launched on the March 2018 cover of Guns & Ammo, the Momentum was actually Franchi's first rifle. One issue that has come up with all three of their guns is having to check and tighten the front and rear action assembly screws. My search is with an elk/mule deer hunt in mind. Availability might be part of the problem. It shoots some factory ammo sub moa as advertised but has been and uphill battle to get hand loaded 88grn eldm's to group consistent. Instead of light gun oil, I wouldwipe gun with a rig rag. It appears that Fierce is stretching the truth a bit on weight because mine weighs 6 pounds, 4 1/8 oz and its a short action with 24 6.5mm barrel so it should be about the lightest one they have. Honestly, you need to review one. Even on safe, the bolt can be manipulated to chamber or eject a round. The new Elite versions now feature detachable box magazines, Cerakote metal finishes and stocks wearing popular camo patterns. Id also like to hear more about the threading on the various barrels and if they are suitable for use with a suppressor i.e. Dumb! Im not the person I asked the question but I am also looking at one chambered and 308 and another shop down the road has a 30-06. that blew my mind that an OOB rifle would have that much contact. With a century and a half of firearms manufacturing behind it, Italy's Franchi has unveiled its first-ever centrefire hunting rifle, the Momentum. Two of them shoot 270s and one in 25-06. Thanks Jim. Also 243win, 270 win, 300 win mag and 30-06. I am finally biting the bullet and having a custom gun made. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Question. Slim Fit Leather Jackets brings this iconic jacket from animation to reality, especially for all the fans of this video game. Hi Jim, People harp on me for recommending the Weatherby Vanguard because its essentially the same thing as a Howa 1500, but costs more money. In your opinion, is the Fierce worth the extra you pay or does the Springfield give you more value for the money you spend. Keep up the great work. You mention it just once in this string but dont come back to it at all. Spacers are included for length of pull adjustment. You havent included Winchester in your reviews. They are built in the same factory where they produce Mauser and Blaser rifles (all owned by the same company), so I guess quality shouldnt be an issue but unlike Mausers and Blasers, these rifles are far less expensive. Newer is not always better. How us that helping? Jim, I would love to see you review a Lithgow la102 from Australia. what do you think of it? Cheers. Thanks! I\m looking for a good \all around\ big game hunting rifle (elk, whitetail/mule deer, and antelope mostly). Im a big fan of Sig pistols and never had an issue with QC. It is so fun to shoot and is extremely accurate! The sub-$500 version of the CVA Cascade comes with just blued steel. Its very heavy, the straight pull was difficult to work with and made a few of my shots not go off because I didnt quite push it ALL the way forward. I have a slue of rifles in many calibers 22LR up to 338WM, except the 7mm mag. As i get older i am now back to 6,555 and 8x57IS and 308win when it come to calibers but that is more related to the hunting i do than the rifles .Love your tube videos and the fact that you have your own opinions an are not afraid to tell everyone about them. Fancy for an affordable rifle, the Franchi Momentum sports a one-piece, fluted bolt. Jim, based on your reviews and several others, Id really like go with the 6.8 Western. I found barrel engraved with 6.5 Creedmore and read manual before use HOWEVER, since recording that review Ive also had the opportunity to hunt a good bit. Ive been eyeing them for a while, but the MPR turned me off from the chassis rifles. Great review. But after that, its likely going to be a custom. Hey Jim, big fan of your Youtube channel and I always enjoy watching/reading your content. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1 (Release build 20180111) Page Time: 0.097s Queries: 14 (0.037s) Memory: 3.1032 MB (Peak: 3.2586 MB) Zlib disabled. Is the quality that good? I can be an affiliate for just about any gun brand, so it doesnt impact my recommendations. Have you or will you be doing a video on Franchi hunting rifles. To wit: 1. Hey jim i was wondering if you have done a review on the savage impulse i found some videos on it but not many that really go indepth on the build quality or how well or not well the action works. I dont own one. 99% sure the next rifle is the sig cross but real question is 6.5 cm or .308 I cant decide. The Tikka T3x has a single-column detachable clip magazine made from a strong fiberglass-reinforced composition. Of all the rifles I own, if you just said Grab a rifle and go hunting without any more specifics of where Id be hunting or what Id be hunting, Id grab that rifle. Just doing a bit of research on the Momentum because the local gun store has a bunch on sale. Simply depress the rear of it while sliding the bolt out the back of the receiver. Ive got an old 700 that is a beautiful gun and was a great deal but Im taking the plastic stock Savage up in the tree this fall. I owned one in .28 Nosler and it was a very poor choice for that heavy-recoiling of a cartridge. I just have to say thank you I really appreciate your unbiased and honest opinions. I still love wood stocks. It has become one of my favorite guns. Thank you! The action quality, as well as the barrel, produces a very accurate rifle. Thanks for the info , it will certainly help those with no interest in spending too much to have a good rifle. Id probably go with the Bergara Wilderness Ridge. I did go looking for the reloading equipment you mentioned and more on acquiring lowers ahead of time, yet unable to find. A junk plasticky trigger guard, its enough to make you barf just looking at it. I would not even try and shoot a moose with the Creedmore but its no problem with the 6.5 Swede with its 1 in 7.8 twist with the 160 grain slugs. Any suggestions would be appreciated. TIKKA is proven, Franchi has some good reports. Also, at least in my area, they are readily available which is a huge bonus right now. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Tikka T3X or Franchi Momentum Elite - ALDEER.COM Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2022 Aldeer LLP. some of us realize we would be charged a certain premium. The need for fast follow up shots, I know with practice a bolt action is fast, but I also dont want to break my right hand grip on the gun and trigger. I really like the trigger feel, but it is a little heavy. In depth and honest I try to ruin stuff like this and am always amazed how much it will take. Im surprised it didnt make the list. Itd make a Backstreet Boy jealous. The Winchester Model 70 should be the rifle you compare all the others too. It also really liked this 147 grain MEN stuff that I bought in bulk cheap some years ago basically just for semi-auto plinking use. What? Any opinion on it? No doubt, it has s lot to offer. It is a three lug 60 deg. I have monkey arms so a new stock is in the future for whatever rifle I choose another reason Im trying to keep the price down. For the record the cheapest gun Ive ever owned is a TC compass in 6.5 Creedmoor and it has shot sub MOA with most factory offerings from day one and consistently shoots sub 1/2 moa with handloads. Hes not huge. For some unknown reason it really didnt like Gorillas super nice, match-grade ammo and that entirely unoffensive group above was really horrible by Franchi Momentum standards. All in 7mm Rem Mag of course . Its a well designed stock, but the fit and finish feels cheesyespecially the checkering pattern they use. I was very impressed at the response I got from John and can tell you Fierce is a company that stands behind their products. So happy you out this together as it brings all of your work together and I hope you link to it. Everyone else says so but I figured Id ask. They look standard, dont include fluting on the (rather beefy) bolt or the (rather beefy) barrel, the action and barrel are just blued, the trigger is fine but not outstanding, the action is quite smooth but not as smooth as a Tikka. Love your reviews. Great review Christensen needs to improve its quality control in my opinion. I\m a big fan of your videos and expertise. Best known for making value-priced shotguns, Franchi may well have taken a leap of faith by entering the highly competitive centrefire market. Fantastic. If youre going to buy a Ruger American, know there are dozens of different configurations available. I am looking at it in 243 but cant decide between that and x bolt. There are quality inexpensive rifles being made, but if you step up into the $500-$1,000 price range, almost every option will shoot accurately and have more consistent quality control. Obviously your not going to buy one move on. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. I cant say I love the idea of a polymer sling mount with a relatively thin wall to it, but its definitely more out-of-the-way than a protruding stud. Hello Jim, I am in the market for a new rifle and have really narrowed it down between the Fierce Rival and the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. Its a 3-lug design with a decently large extractor and ejector and large locking lugs. I used to not care about if the bolt locked on safe but after a walk in the woods of ND with a Ruger American and the bolt falling out, to not be recovered on the opener, I now only have guns that lock the bolt on safe. My personal favorite elk cartridge is a 7mm Rem Mag. I have watched your reviews on both, so maybe your opinion on whether itd be worth the additional money To go with the Waypoint. A 60 degree bolt lift that makes second fast shots from the shoulder a complete impossibility. Would love to know your thoughts on the Seekins Precision Havak PH2 rifles. I have one in 308 and Federal premium 168grain Berger hunter (or hunter hybrid, cant remember now) shoot less than an inch at 100 yards, but now they are hard to find. I really don\\\t need an other gun, but what is the best 7mm Mag you suggest? 150 grain federal fusion groups sub 1inch or better every time. have since restocked it with a B&C M40, and will use it for long range targets and steel. I can stretch the budget to a Browning if I have to, but the Winchester XPR is more in my price range. Just hasnt been available. Some day Ill give one a more fair look. As a matter of fact these days it usually sucks. Forearm checkering extends nearly all the way forward, ending just short of another molded-in and recessed sling swivel mount. Its way more fun to shoot than the other guns. I agree with you 100 percent it is a home run for Springfield!!! However, Ill simply leave this anecdote. Franchi Momentum .300 Win Mag 24" Black / Hunter Gray 4 Rds 41553. You sound like the new guy that is 25 and has 150 years experience. Thanks and keep up the great content! Manual cover also says- Do not use without reading Manual. Any thoughts? Again not a spot of rust. Vald, I love me some harbor freight. Releasing the floor plate of the 4-round, internal magazine is accomplished via a lever inside the front of the trigger guard. Keep up the great work. Keep up the good work! This rifle broke two scopes I highly recommend the Leupold which I have on it now .team this up with the Barnes TTPX BT. I agree with you. Paid $230 bucks for it out the door . Heres a link to that rifle in .30-06. Both have V block bedding blocks (But Ruger's are Y blocks for pillar bedding the action bolts.) Im well aware that there is stiff competition in the semi-custom rifle category. The Weatherby Vanguard threaded, Bergara B14, and Howa Carbon Stalker are all models Im researching more to try to come to a definitive decision. (weight) I have a Momentum elite varmint in 224 Valkyrie. High comb, rigid, modern stock lines. I have been trying to get a Waypoint. 1 Image (s) Franchi Momentum Elite 6.5 Creed Realtree Excape 24" TB Burnt Bronze 41606. Mr. Harmer, I really appreciate your reviews on the Sig Cross and Waypoint. I havent heard you talk much about the Seekins rifles, any thoughts on them? and the weathermark? Im down to the Savage 110 Ultralite and the Christensen Ridgeline. Hello Jim, Your videos and information are amazing. Thoughts? MSRP:$609 (about $450 retail). However, as Ive owned the Sig Cross for almost a year now, Im surprised by how frequently its the gun I reach for in the safe. The Bergara B14 Wilderness with adjustable cheek piece would be a great choice, as well as anything in the Bergara Premier Series. Its short, compact, lightweight, sinfully accurate with my handloads, feeds 100%, and adjustable so it fits me perfectly. i have a momentum in .308. stock looks a bit odd, but handles my frame very well. Why no ones talk about the sakos in the states?? Beater rifles go until they cant. It is aggravating that the stock hugs the barrel on one side, but it doesnt contact on mine. The trigger is adjustable like the Tikka. Affordable? The stock looks like a varmint/tactical/long range/hunting compromise, and may do those thing well, its just not what I was looking for. Highly recommended. I am really interested in a waypoint. I want to buy a new rifle in 30-06. I know you like the CVA Cascade, but there are 2 things very important to know about those! Like I said not sure what you tested it in, but I just wanted to let you know. I would also love a video on the Winchester model 70 extreme weather! Ive killed elk, mule deer and whitetails, with it. Yes, thats five rounds as always. I hear a lot of people liking the Seekins Havak, but it just hasnt grabbed me. And a nice walnut stock would have cost them a few more pennies to use. In the case of the .308 Winchester tested here, its a 22-inch, cold hammer forged barrel with U.S.-standard 5/8-24 threads. Would love to see your review on the Australian built Lithgow if you havent fired one yet I am sure you will be blown away by it in build quality, accuracy and value considering we are paying $900 for rifles worth $350 in America. Looks to me like an Apples to Oranges request. In case anyone is wondering and didnt click the link, its available in 6.5Creedmore. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. Thanks for your time Jim, love the channel! My 2 favorite calibers are 270( I have 6 of them) and 300H&H ( one pre 64 Winchester Model 70 and one Cooper). NO, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_in_Italy, F Franchi, and Baretta and their ilk. May 7, 2018. You mention that you felt the Browning X-Bolt Pro was not a good fit for a heavy recoil gun. So if I review it and love my copy, Id be convincing people to buy one and they very likely may not have the same experience. Im sure a video review by you would certainly help clarify and perhaps sway my views on the Sauer 100s. I had a Waypoint 2020 6.5 PRC on order for a long while- when one finally showed up and I was able to handle it, I just could not warm up to it. The Elite Varmint, introduced last year, should readily . So, too, will the rifles 2-position safety allow you to load and unload safely. Thanks for such a speedy response. They are reviewing new rifles not old ones. Those are cool, but very heavy guns. Id pick the CVA Cascade from that group. Regardless, they should have went with a flush mount magazine like the Axis which, if I may add sells new for a third of the Momentums MSRP in my part of the world. I would love those see a review of the Benelli Lupo.Ive been shooting mine for little while now and I have to say it is a very accurate hunting rifle with a great ability to conform to just about anybody.Hope to see a review in the near future.Da Butcher. Whats your opinion one the tikka t3x upr vs the waypoint 2020? First let me say your videos are absolutely fantastic. I bought the MarkV Weathermark LT in the .257 WBY. guns.com Buy. Its just so short, light, and accurate. Might want to hold off a month or so. Hard to go wrong with it for online prices often below $400. I have the weather extreme in 25-05 that I purchased for a Pronghorn hunt topped with a Leupold VX6 HD. Hey Jim! And like most of the rest of the world for that matter. The CVA Cascade is an exceptional rifle for the price. Keep them coming! At present time i run Sakos and Blaser. Is it felt more? Ill use my customized REM 700 in 300 win mag for elk. Not sure what caliber you tested the bergara b14 ridge in but, I bought one from Scheels last year in 6.5 prc and it would scratch up the casings, and jam up on the last round. JavaScript is disabled. The molded-in checkering is clean and sharp but in no way uncomfortable. Gun Review: Franchi Momentum Rifle in .308 Win, School Security: As a Parent, Hold Your School Officials Accountable, Campus Carry Celebrates Two Years in Texas, Doomsayer Professors Refuse to Comment, Gun Review: Smith & Wesson Model 317 Kit Gun .22LR Revolver, Oh, The Humanity: Latest Polling Shows a Majority of Americans Now Oppose an Assault Weapons Ban, Smith & Wesson Announces the New M&P FPC Pistol Caliber Carbine. I really enjoy watching all of your youtube reviews. Really enjoy reading your reviews and opinions! The reason I like the CVA Cascade over the Ruger American is because it has a much more rigid stock, a better action, and it still comes with a quality barrel. Will be used for 100-500 yd plinking and occasional deer hunting. I am looking for an all purpose dependable rifle to handle more than one role. For my boy. I\ve hunted since high school age but always small game/birds. Optional Features TSA Recoil Pads TSA recoil pads for LOP adjustment. I found not too long ago a Husqvarna Mauser for $400 bucks in like new condition. Hi Jim Im trying to click your links to the guns but its not working. Meet the Franchi Momentum Bolt-Action Rifle. Unsurprisingly, the Momentum is equipped with a synthetic stock. Havent shot it yet, but well see how it performs. Jim, would love to hear some feedback on Cooper firearms if you have any input? Ergonomics * * * * The Tikka T3X Lite comes with an absolutely fantastic action. If you had 1500-2500 just for one, which make would you drop that cash on? As Im new to the shooting world Im still undecided on a long range target rifle. Franchi designs some very good scatter guns, and this is their first rifle attempt. Lets weed out a few rifles I DONT recommend first. Now they are North of $400. But honestly these are not deal-breakers (or at least I think so). While I believe theyve succeeded in creating a stock that accommodates many different shooting positions and feels above average in all, it doesnt necessary excel in any of them. I appreciate your knowledge and insight. The Cross is great for 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5 PRC, but the stock just isnt suitable for heavy recoiling cartridges. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Sure, its not always possible. Hey Jim, your videos are great not only on rifles, but optics too. The action is a little sticky at the back because its a 2-lug so theres a little play at the back if you arent pushing straight. One-Piece Picatinny Rail Quick and easy optics mounting. I am looking for a new rifle, and am looking at the Franchi Momentum Elite, was looking for any input by those of you that have one. Ill update the post. I wouldnt hesitate to recommend a Weatherby if you find one in a cartridge you like, or if you dont mind shooting Weatherbys overbore cartridges. Great comment, Frank. I looked at the Tikas as well and for the calibers Im looking at, I just think theyll beat the hell outta my shoulder. These are incredible results from a rifle with an MSRP barely over $600! Have you reviewed one yet? I have the 2020 waypoint. Also, I am 62 and getting tired of the recoil my 7mm Rem Mag and .270 has, would the 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC or 7mm-08 be a good alternative? You have entered an incorrect email address! (Momentum 2018 followed by the Momentum Elite 2019). These areas are designed to provide purchase and ergonomic grip options for different shooting positions and styles, such as the five seen above. However, if this was not a ringer and indicative of the accuracy to be expected, it would be a great entry level rifle.