Lan Wangji: In the Cloud Recesses flashback, Nie Huaisang says that he is the same age as Wei Wuxian and himself, which would be 15. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Welcome to r/MoDaZuShi! Everyone is ultimately saved by the fierce corpses of the remnants of the Qishan Wen Clan killed during the First Siege. ._2Gt13AX94UlLxkluAMsZqP{background-position:50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:contain;position:relative;display:inline-block} thats why they turned on him 3. [31], During this time, he also co-parents the orphaned Jin Ling alongside Jin Guangyao. He was envious of WWX, and jealous of LWJ and the Wen remnants. The Yunmeng Jiang Sect was obliterated. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works Audio Drama (JP) I agree that WWX shouldnt have gone full dark and angsty but I did want those feelings of his to be explored more, Im disappointed that the author left so much of that up to readers interpretation. Nevertheless, he continues to trail his nephew on night hunts in case of any danger. To kill Wei Wuxian because of anger, Wen Chao does the worst thing that he ever does to anyone. climbing up that coastal shelf by Sour_Idealist. But I think a lot of people ignore the politics of everything. Wei Wuxian returned to his home after finishing his training at the Gusu Lan Sect, and a series of disastrous events made him give away his spiritual power to save the life of his martial brother, Jiang Cheng. Now that's all the numbers of reasons I think Jiang Cheng wronged Wei Wuxian and others mainly because he was choosing to look the other way or because he was acting like a spoiled brat. And to those who like Jiang Cheng I hope you . Status When Wei Wuxian ventures to the market one day, Jiang Cheng notices cultivators from the Qishan Wen Clan swarming the market. A subreddit dedicated to fans, by fans, of all versions and adaptations of Mo Dao Zu Shi! [8], Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji, remain trapped in the cave. It's been fifty-five years since Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian's marriage. [5], After Jin Zixuan insults Jiang Yanli and expresses his dissatisfaction with his engagement to her, Jiang Cheng intends to punch him. I can't really speak about Chinese culture, but maybe differences here could explain why some of this was glossed over. Just before Nie Mingjue can kill him, however, Wen Ning leaps in between and takes te punch through his own chest, astonishing Jiang Cheng. [55], After the Guanyin Temple incident, Jiang Cheng reflects on how he once sacrificed himself for Wei Wuxian and also includes a heartfelt wish for his martial brother to live well. Too much pain, grief and heartache after so many years. When Wei Wuxian died, it had only been nearly three months (Chapter 79) after Lan Wangji hid Wei Wuxian in the cave, fought 33 Lan sect elders and was subsequently punished severely. "[45] However, eventually Jiang Cheng begins to weep bitterly that Wei Wuxian had not told him. He himself, after all these years, didn't know what he want. Lan Zhang also said that he looked for clues in the Nightless City and found out that the zombies didn't actually backfire on him. At Langya, he has to stop Wei Wuxian from beating Jin Zixuan after a misunderstanding with Jiang Yanli pushes her to tears. The aithorbdoes establish early on that WWX has a personality type where he doesn't really dwell on past struggles, sp it may be frustrating for the reader, but it's not necessarily inconsistent. [16], After retaking many places in Yunmeng, Jiang Cheng joins with Lan Wangji to attack the supervisory office where Wen Chao is hiding. No, he doesn't hate Wei Wuxian, but I don't think the brotherly love is there anymore. Finally, and my biggest issue with the novel was the treatment of Lan Xichen and Jiang Cheng. In the live action, it looked like LWJ might get hurt because JC couldn't bring it upon himself to actually stab and end WWX. [28], During the night hunt on Dafan Mountain, Jiang Cheng helps set up the Deity-Binding Nets to give Jin Ling an advantage over the other cultivators. This then proceeded to be the only time they talked about their feelings lmao sure maybe they wont talk about the sacrifices theyve made for the other person, thats consistent with their characters, but really? [56], Hikaru Midorikawa (animation, audio drama, web series). Then again, this is only a theory that I believe in. And as a personal aside, it genuinely pisses me off that as lot of fans who don't like JC are very reductive of him. [24], He shouts at Wei Wuxian to stop the corpses from attacking her, but realizes that Wei Wuxian seems to struggle to maintain control. [6] However, tensions erupt during the night-hunt on Mount Muxi, when Lan Wangji and Jin Zixuan defend Mianmian from Wen Chao's order to bind and bleed her to lure out their prey. Probably gonna watch the drama and hope for the best next. It should have been a simple story with a happy ending. [6], At the training, Jiang Cheng warns Wei Wuxian not to start trouble after noticing that the dangerous Wen Zhuliu guards their pompous leader, Wen Chao. I just watched the donghua version of the Founder of Diabolism, and I am still confused about how did Wei Wuxian die. three poisons; a Buddhist phrase for the root of all turmoil (greed, anger, ignorance) shngshu skilled practitioner, Jiang Cheng was born the second child of Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian. It would explain why each version differs . It would be hard to not resent WWX after all that, and theres definitely some complex emotions between the two of them. In the end, Jiang Cheng stabs Wei Wuxian, Wei Wuxian summons Wen Ning to break Jiang Cheng's arm, and the two leave cursing each other. What if he realised he was so alone and then comited suicide. So the way he behaves at the end, saying "can't I hate you" and "why are you so awesome", etc is a direct result of (a) spending 13 years thinking WWX CHOSE to keep using demonic cultivation for fun and profit until it killed JZX, JYL, thousands of cultivators and then WWX himself, and trying to hate him for that, and (b) he thinks of the core transfer the way Wen Ning talks about it: as WWX being so superior to him and as proof that JC is a clown and worthless. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Chapter 7 [39], As more corpses approached, Jin Ling wished for Jiang Cheng to comfort him, but the closest Jiang Cheng came was giving his nephew Zidian, much like his mother had given it once to him. [14], Jiang Cheng believes his life as a cultivator over without his golden core, until Wei Wuxian suggests that his mother's teacher, the legendary Baoshan Sanren, can restore his core. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. And this was when WWX said he would always serve JC and then would be twin heroes etc. "[2] However, after Wei Wuxian is brought to live at Lotus Pier around age nine or ten, Jiang Cheng's puppies are sent away due to Wei Wuxian's intense fear of dogs. MDZS Q In the end, Jiang Yanli has to carry both boys to Lotus Pier on her back, as both have injured their legs. But he cannot because he knows it was motivated by good intentions and righteous actions. But out of the two of them, it's JC that bears the brunt of the damage WWX causes, politically. Voice Actor (Japanese) Absolutely. In addition, WWX is a threat to the cultivation world: if he can rip Wen Rohan to shreads, who's to say he won't turn on everyone else? Alive [48], After the death of Su She renders Nie Mingjue even more dangerous, Jiang Cheng realizes that Wei Wuxian is the only one who can save them. Why would he be searching for him in the first place if he really thought WWX was really and truly dead? When they go to the Cloud Recesses, Jiang Cheng is 15. Since Wei Wuxian was adopted by the Jiang Family, he grows a strong bond with them. Most of the fandom seems to be fine with everything I mentioned above and I wondered if I was going crazy lol. Like JC might cut LWJ's arm. Jiang Cheng hurries back to Yunmeng on foot, and he and Jiang Fengmian return to save them seven days later. He takes Jiang Cheng to a mountain and instructs him to follow a path up the mountain, where he will meet Baoshan Sanren. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works As for being angrier and angrier, JC had a lot of feelings he needed to unpack. him never being able to surpass Wei Wu Xian skills wise and living up to the Yunmeng Jiang Sects motto of To attempt the impossible; and how his choice to go out and draw the attention of the Wen Sects lackeys away from Wei Wu Xian resulted in the destruction of his own golden core, among other things. But its not fairy tale love and theyre going to be tense with each other. Do I deserve to be blinded by all your dazzling splendor?! Jiang Cheng then turns his wrath on Jin Ling, while Jin Guangyao tries and fails to pacify him. He picked up Chenqing and refused to give it to JGY in exchange of Suibian because he knew that WWX would look for the dizi not the sword. Jiang Cheng and Lan Wangji navigate life after Wei Wuxian's death and are forced together by fate (Nie Huaisang) before choosing to stay by each other's side. Did Jiang fengmian love Jiang Cheng? Trauma is not excuse, for refusing to return the debt to people who saved his life, he instead knowingly chooses to lead a siege against them, like if nothing else, honour your sisters sacrifice? Currently, the original novel by MXTX ( | M Xing Tng Xi) has been adapted into a donghua, manhua, audio drama and live action! He hates himself for not living up to what his mother wanted him to be what he thinks his father wanted, he hates himself for not being able to be what WWX represents. And when WWX took the Wens, JC could not justify, politically, in the eyes of the others, why they shouldn't kill WWX. I don't like the live action death because I'm always like, why didn't LWJ just fly down to WWX and save him. Dog will cause trouble to Wei Wuxian.cat seems better" Jiang cheng says looking at wangxian angrily. Eventually, he releases his martial brother and breaks down in tears. [16], Jiang Cheng uses Zidian to strangle Wen Zhuliu and defends Wei Wuxian from the appalled Lan Wangji. .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{vertical-align:middle}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} But once he was done talking to Lan Qiren, his . 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He was certainly going to doom. [44], Jiang Cheng clangs two swords together to overpower the sound of Jin Guangyao's guqin. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Mobile Game Gender Title Yes, what WWX was morally just, but it basically spelled his doom and the doom of the barely hanging on at the time Yunmeng Jiang Sect. [39], Eventually, Wei Wuxian decides to risk his own life to allow the cultivators to escape. Birthday In my interpretation, Wei Ying realised that if he didn't let him go, Lan Zhan would fall as well so with all his strength he threw Lan Zhan's arm up and let himself fall to save him. JC is a Sect Leader. Wei Ying ( Wi Yng), courtesy name Wei Wuxian (, Wi Wxin) is the founder of the Demonic Cultivation and a former disciple of the Yunmeng Jiang Sect. 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Jiang Cheng walked up and started stabbing the rocks that were beneath Lan Zhan. This might have gotten a bit off topic, but I guess my opinion would be just that JC wouldn't accept WWXs death, bcs he believed WWX has something to do, as in apologise to him on his knees and make him feel better and have a scape goat again Ehhh Yanli, why did u have to be an idiot and die Who is gonna make the lotus and disaster boy talk to each other without u . [19], Jiang Cheng's insecurities grow after the Sunshot Campaign, as people suggest that the Yunmeng Jiang Clan has only survived because of Wei Wuxian, rather than Jiang Cheng. As a skilled doctor, Wen Qing treats Jiang Cheng but requests that they leave quickly, lest she fall under suspicion. Even if JC told "WWX i lost my golden core to protect you, you brat!" Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Why is it that now its like Im supposed to have wronged you?! I don't know what your specific background is, but I think Americans tend to be more expressive with both positive and negative emotions. Hed been blaming him for so long and the bad blood and complicated history between them runs quite deep e.g. She married Jin Zixuan and bore their child Jin Ling. Although the presence of Hanguang-jun did help Wei Wuxian somewhat, it was far from enough. But then why would he try to exorcise Wei Wuxian's spirit by using Zidian on Mo Xuanyu? During the "Poisons" arc, Jiang Cheng is 17. Yu Ziyuan is infuriated, and turns her anger on her son when he defends Wei Wuxian, reminding him that Wei Wuxian still surpasses him in cultivation. Have you seen the manga or the cartoon? In the web series, his death was portrayed by choosing to fall from the cliff. [20], When Wei Wuxian rescues Wen Ning, Wen Qing, and the rest of the Wen Clan's remnants from the Lanling Jin Clan, killing several of their cultivators in the process, Jiang Cheng initially defends the two Wens who had saved their lives, though he apologizes for Wei Wuxian's actions. But I can say, at the end, he didn't hate him as much as he did before.